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rookie - founder
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Traffic in our area has increased to the point of effecting safety. Southwood Dr. has become a major “bypass” for cars going to the Westgate Mall from Payne vs. getting onto Saratoga Ave. During the afternoon, many student are persent on Southwood and present a safety problem as cars speed down Souhtwood.

Rich Wardall started a crusade to get a STOP sign installed at Southwood and Los Felice. His efforts paid off! With the help of other Hathaway Park members, the Appeals Board reversed their decision and approved a STOP sign. The sign was installed on April 7th.

Do you know of any other streets that may require a STOP sign? Please let us know.

novice - member
20 posts

When you come out on the 'other' southwood turning onto Payne (letter 'A') you often can't see oncoming traffic ( <<<< ) because of cars, sometimes large vans, parked at the corner, marked out in red.

It would be great if it was actually painted in red, so that no-one would park there. Supposedly, many employees of the post office park in that area due to a lack of parking.

rookie - founder
4 posts

i agree, sometimes it is hard to see on that coner. We can contact San Jose Traffic Control or the Enforcement Department for more information.

rookie - member
7 posts

I think Latimer Ave and possibly Colombo would be good candidates for traffic calming. There is a lot of high-speed through traffic on Latimer. About 2 years ago after a hit-and-run on my property, I observed the traffic one evening closely. Only about 40% of the evening traffic was through traffic (Saratoga to Hamilton) which was lower than I thought it would be (but maybe there were a lot of locals returning home from work) but almost all of the through traffic was going over 40MPH. I guess this higher speed isn't surprising since the primary motivation of the through traffic is aggressive drivers trying to beat the lights on the other major streets. Late at night about 80% of the traffic is through - and a fair amount of it "cruising" around with the radio blaring.

In the years I've lived there, there have been several accidents on Latimer, usually late at night on the "curve" on Latimer. All the ones that I know of where the driver has been caught involved alcohol. I have also seen accidents where the aggressive cut-through drivers misjudge traffic and get t-boned as the cross/turn left on the very wide Hamilton Ave. One of these in the past 6 years was an injury accident. There have been cars totaled in driveways and there's a reason why most of the street trees there are small or in sore shape. The curved block of Latimer is filled with lore of a injury accident rollover at the curve and even a car in a bedroom years ago before I moved in. This doesn't count the accidents that occurred when Hilton had no stop sign where it crosses Latimer and people unfamiliar with the neighborhood used to cross Latimer not realizing that they were entering an uncontrolled intersection.

Right now there are 9 small children who now live within 100 feet of the Latimer curve. I've been avoiding teaching my kids to ride on a bike because of the problems.

There's some through traffic on Columbo too, but I don't think it is as bad but could probably use some abatement. I was recently shocked at how many people cut through on Southwood since it doesn't seem to give a huge time advantage but I guess some people will do anything to save 30 seconds. I recall phoning in one injury accident on Columbo about 5 years ago after turning around after hearing screeching tires and seeing a car versus kid but in that case I don't think speed or driver error was a factor.

A stop sign at Latimer/Vallejo would reduce speed, and would be the cheapest and fastest option, but I think the broader traffic calming changes would be far more effective at cutting through traffic. Neighbors have told me that the city rejected previous pleas for a stop sign there. I've seen in some other neighborhoods traffic calming cut speeds down to 20 MPH and eliminate nearly all cut through traffic. Unfortunately, the Hathaway area never got any of the traffic calming when the city actually had money to do it.

Banning a left turn or through from Latimer onto Hamilton would help a lot too, but I'd worry that it'd inconvenience too many local residents and local traffic would then have to get out through a different street and have to drive through the neighborhood more.

novice - member
20 posts

Can you define traffic calming? What does it involve, what are the implications?

rookie - member
7 posts

Here's a overview of the different features that can be implemented:

http://www.sanjoseca.gov/transportation/forms/toolkit.pdf

All have positive and negative aspects.
For example:

1. Eliminating Payne-to-Westgate cutthru on Southwood:
1a: Partial closures for Southwood crossing Latimer so that one cannot continue west or east on Southwood when crossing Latimer
2. Reducing speed and discouraging cut-through
2a: Mid-block chokers on Latimer Ave, possibly Vallejo and Columbo
2b: Minor bulbouts at Latimer/Vallejo and major bulbout at Columbo/Vallejo to cut pedestrian crossing distance
3. Cutting speed, improving ped. saftey on some of the wide streets of the annexed streets (Southwood, western of Vallejo) that were once unicorporated
3a: The streets are probably wide enough to add a divider on each side that would effectively make a sidewalk out of the existing asphalt and still allow for parking on at least one side, possibly both sides. Although not the most beautiful, this would have the advantage of not having to cut into peoples front yards for a sidewalk.

IMHO, None of these would impede emergency access, turn the neighborhood into a giant maze, or unreasonably reduce street parking for Hathaway park.

These are just a set of ideas, and I haven't really thought any of them through very well so I'm sure someone could think of something better.

rookie - member
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the pdf file is excellent. thanks for posting the link!

Especially #2 & #3 are great ideas that don't impose any inconvenience to residents.

I think in general, it's important to establish measures to reduce traffic at all intersections around the park. All intersections should at least have 4-way stops, maybe with high-visibility crosswalks. This would probably be the most inexpensive solution to improve the current situation. The bulbouts are a great idea. Also road bumps or raised cross-walks might be economic solutions to increase pedestrian visibility and slow traffic down at the same time.

rookie - member
2 posts

Hello,

I have submitted an inquiry to DOT this morning on the possibility of painting the curb on Southwood and Payne red. Traffic Calming is looking into this proposal and I will notify all of you once I receive an update.

rookie - member
2 posts

Hello Hathaway Park NA, 

I received great news today from DOT that they will be installing a 50-ft red curb on the southeast corner of Payne and Southwood. The work should be completed in 4-6 weeks. Thanks for bringing this issue to our attention. For further Traffic Calming issues, please don't hesitate to contact DOT-Traffic Calming at 535-3850. They accept requests from citizens as well.

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